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Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:18 am
by Trugmaker
While viewing page weight, I notice that Calibri.ttf is 1,610 Kb, by far the heaviest part of the whole page. Is there a way to reduce or compress fonts to reduce pageload time, and do fonts vary in weight dependant which one is used.
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:13 pm
by Pablo
As far as I know, there is no way to compress fonts. They will be published "AS IS".
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:11 pm
by Bluesman
Trugmaker wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:18 am
While viewing page weight, I notice that Calibri.ttf is 1,610 Kb, by far the heaviest part of the whole page. Is there a way to reduce or compress fonts to reduce pageload time, and do fonts vary in weight dependant which one is used.
Yes, font's are in different weights. Dependent on how many glyphs they contain and how complicated the paths are. Solution... choose another font that is similar but less weight or edit the font in a font edit software and erase all glyphs that are not in use.
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:51 pm
by Trugmaker
This question has uncovered another very strange happening!!! While looking at both page weight and the page HTML, I realised that nowhere at all do I use the fonts Calibri.ttf - Verdana.ttf & Pala.ttf on my pages, only Ariel. So I created a new page, naked apart from a single image (the page, not me), yet when I viewed the page weight, the three Fonts I've listed here are clearly there. How can this be? I looked at a different WWB website that I created and there is no suggestion of those fonts in either HTML or page weight? I have tried to discover exactly where these three fonts are used or why they are there, but have drawn a total blank. I would really appreciate any guidance here.
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:16 pm
by Bluesman
Trugmaker wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:51 pm
This question has uncovered another very strange happening!!! While looking at both page weight and the page HTML, I realised that
nowhere at all do I use the fonts Calibri.ttf - Verdana.ttf & Pala.ttf on my pages, only Ariel. So I created a new page, naked apart from a single image (the page, not me), yet when I viewed the page weight, the three Fonts I've listed here are clearly there. How can this be? I looked at a different WWB website that I created and there is no suggestion of those fonts in either HTML or page weight? I have tried to discover exactly where these three fonts are used or why they are there, but have drawn a total blank. I would really appreciate any guidance here.
Hi Trugmaker...
(No guidance, just a statement) checked my 3 latest sites and no one of the fonts you mentioned appears... only the fonts I applied with "@font-face" are there. So looks like you must have applied them some way...
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:47 pm
by Pablo
To be able to help you. I need to see your project file.
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:49 pm
by Trugmaker
How do I show 'the project file??'
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:54 pm
by Pablo
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:49 pm
by Trugmaker
Do Whaaaaaaaat! It would likely be less complicated to work it out myself or pay your air fare to visit me.
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:29 am
by Pablo
All I am asking is for you to share a demo project so I can see what you have done.
The application has thousands of options and millions of possible combinations.
So, without knowing which options you have used it will be very difficult to help you.
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:44 pm
by BaconFries
If it was me Pablo I would take the offer of the free ticket..
Trugmaker it is quite simple.
1) First make a backup of your project and save.
2) Open the project remove all irrelevant information such as extensions, manually added code if any.
3) Save use WinZip to compress include any fonts used and the send the zipped project to Pablo.
See the following and links within on compressing fonts.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/608 ... ing-in-web
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:58 pm
by alan_sh
I would also add:
2a) Test the new project and see if it still fails. If it doesn't - then something you have removed is the cause.
Alan
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:23 pm
by Trugmaker
In a way I found a way to 'cheat'. I just loaded Filezilla and deleted the Calibri.ttf from the site as it is not used by within my wwb project. Tested the site and no adverse effects etc. Just peculiar how/why it (and three other fonts) are itemised in 'page weight' yet are not visible at all in the page HTML ????
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:35 pm
by Pablo
The fonts will be publish if:
- you use them in somewhere in your pages and you have enabled the option 'Automatically use @font-face' in Tools->Options->Fonts.
or
- you may have used it for captcha or another tool that needs the font on the server.
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:34 am
by Trugmaker
I believe I have found the reason (with guidance from Pablo). I unchecked the option to 'Generate TTF in Web font settings and the offending 'Calibri' etc. fonts are no longer shown in Page weight. But! would/could this action be detrimental in any way?
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:09 pm
by Pablo
If you disable this option then users that do not have this font installed will see a different font.
Related tutorial:
http://wysiwygwebbuilder.com/webfonts.html
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:48 pm
by Trugmaker
I only use Arial, surely EVERYONE has Arial???
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:49 pm
by Pablo
Most users will have Arial.
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:26 am
by Trugmaker
When I unchecked the option to 'Generate TTF' in Web font settings, the page load time (in page weight) dropped from 00:08:05 to 00:02.26. Is this a significant time save and warrant the turning off?
Re: Font weight?
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:37 am
by Pablo