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Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:01 pm
by GranolaGeek
Here is a test page with nothing on it except the PDF plugin and the sticky extension

http://creativeoutletdance.com/brochure_2.html

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:03 pm
by [RZ]
it also works fine at my end
ie stops running when trying to use the embed function, however, all is correctly rendered

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:06 pm
by GranolaGeek

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:17 pm
by [RZ]
i do not and cannot know what happens at your end, but at my side works fine and there is no z-index issues
the only easy and quick workaround is that you isolate the embed in a (sub) page and in your main page put an iframe instead
then set the iframe pointing to that (sub) page that has the embed to the pdf
(and please do not blame on the function "stickybad" because it works fine! - please also note that you are using an html4 doctype and embed is officially supported in/from html5)

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:23 pm
by GranolaGeek
I did not mean to offend with the file name, only the position is bad, not the extension!

Unfortunately, I have asked the site owner to test it for me, and she sees exactly what I see. When the browser is narrowed, the sticky disappears behind the PDF plug-in. She is using Safari and Chrome, while I am using IE and FF. I do not understand how you see it working at all.

I'm sorry to be such a pain, but it is truly not working for either of us.

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:26 pm
by [RZ]
i already gave you an explanation and a workaround to solve this at your end
if it works fine at my end, i do not see any issue to solve... i am both trying to guess and help

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:31 pm
by [RZ]
perhaps can also help moving the embed object back in the z-order
you can do this moving back that object in the wb objects manager panel

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:44 pm
by GranolaGeek
Thank you for your ideas and patience. I will try.

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:48 pm
by [RZ]
no problem!

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:03 am
by GranolaGeek
Apparently, there is nothing we can do to get it working for me or for the owner.

I changed the pages to html5.
I embedded the PDF into the test page and used an Iframe into the main page.

It positions correctly until the PDF loads. When the iframe is empty and still loading the pdf, the order is fine.
It positions correctly over the top of the header and the menu bar regardless of the PDF.

Changing Z order has no effect whether I toggle z-order on or off in page properties.

Guess I will just have to find another way, but thank you for working with me on it.

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:09 am
by [RZ]
please send a sample problematic project file (only to demonstrate the issue, a full project is not needed) to the address from where you received the extension

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:22 am
by GranolaGeek
Gladly! Thank you again, so much!

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:05 am
by [RZ]
you should be receiving an answer within an hour, depending on the issue.
with regards,

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:41 am
by GranolaGeek
Note to future users! There is NOTHING wrong with this extension and it works BEAUTIFULLY across all kinds of browsers and all kinds of page designs: except one. You cannot put anything in front of a PDF, period. RZ has spent countless hours with me trying to make it happen, but it is out of his control, out of my control, out of the user's control. Because each browser renders a PDF in its own way, and separately from the rest of the page, it will always load to the front. Can't be helped, so don't bang your head against the wall trying. I recommend this extension highly and have been thrilled with the results in the other ways I have used it. Big shout out to RZ for outstanding support and a super little extension!

Re: [rz] Sticky Object

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:42 am
by [RZ]
thank you very much for clearing this up to avoid confusions
the <embed> tag when pointing to a pdf opens the installed reader instance and each browser behaves different in that case
some put it over all of the other html objects in the page, even if you open it via the inlineframe method
thank you again for your kind words