Still can't get consistent paragraphs

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Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by jwellbelove » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:19 pm

I've always had issues getting the text on my website to format as I want with WYSIWYG Web Builder, but I finally came up with a solution a while ago that gave me consistent results, if a bit of a bodge.

I've tried
Use <div> for each line
Use <div> with position for each line
Include line-height in text styles
Use <p> tags


Apart from Use <div> with position for each line, the text never looks as intended (weird line spacings and the text overlapping the end of the footer)
All of my styles have the same line spacing setting, but often, a line with mixed styles will render with a weird smaller spacing than the rest. Other lines with mixed styles may not be affected; There is no real pattern I can see to when this will occur! The only way I have ever been able to get the site to look consistent is to highlight all of the text and set the line spacing to a fixed amount (the same amount that all the styles use).

I've now realised that this disconnects the text from their original styles (I assumed it would be an inherited CSS property) and now I have about 164 pages that look like they are using the styles, but are not anymore.

There must be a way of getting a consistent rendering of text without all of this extra effort.

This is how it looks in WYSIWYG Web Builder

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Rendering with all styles set to 1.2 line spacing

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Rendering after highlighting the paragraph and manually setting the line spacing to 1.2

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And yes, before you ask, I've tried using the 'blue' style in the first paragraph. It makes no difference.

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by Pablo » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:38 pm

Firstly, I do not recommend not use "Use <div> with position for each line" or "Include line-height in text styles".
These options are only available for backward compatibility, they should not be used with responsive websites.

Please see this related FAQ for more information:
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forum/ ... 10&t=34318

If you need further assistance, then please share a demo project so I can see what you have done.
Related FAQ:
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forum/ ... 10&t=82134

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by jwellbelove » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:40 pm

I added some more text to the page, but this is how it appears in the WYSIWYG Web Builder editor.
The lines are squashed together, unlike the other paragraphs.
And it's using all the same styles as before.
This is extremely inconsistent behaviour!

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by jwellbelove » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:41 pm

Pablo wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:38 pm
Firstly, I do not recommend not use "Use <div> with position for each line" or "Include line-height in text styles".
These options are only available for backward compatibility, they should not be used with responsive websites.
You may not recommend them, but it is the only option that works (mostly) for me, and it doesn't explain the inconsistent behaviour of the editor or rendered web page.

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by jwellbelove » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:42 pm

Oh, and this is not intended to be a 'responsive' website.

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by Pablo » Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:32 pm

If you have issues with text rendering in the workspace then please see this related FAQ:
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forum/ ... 10&t=85917

Note, it very difficult to help you if I cannot see what you have done.

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by bkjohns » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:48 pm

You listed everything you have tried, but that list didn't include 'Default'. Did you try that one?

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by jwellbelove » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:54 am

Yes, I tried 'default'

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by Pablo » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:18 pm

If you need further assistance, then please share a demo project so I can see what you have done.
Related FAQ:
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forum/ ... 10&t=82134

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by jwellbelove » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:26 pm

I've checked the setting and they are all as specified.
I've been having this type of issue for years, long before I upgraded to 4K monitors. So far, I've just bodged the page so that it comes out as I want.
I've been using WYSIWYG Web Builder since about version 9 or 10.

I've also had the weird effect when the lines in the editor don't have the line spacing specified in the style, I select the text, re-select the style, and the lines in the editor expand to the correct line spacing.
I then de-select the text box by clicking outside of it and they jump back to their previous 'squashed' appearance.

It's difficult to create a brand new example of this as it appears to be fairly random. I've just taken the previous saved web page and re-applied all the of the styles to the text and now it looks as I expect, both in the editor and web browser.

I've made the issue go away for this page, but all I can see I've done is hide the problem on this page for the moment.

I've been investigating **** Web Designer as an alternative, and it seems to be able to render my text exactly, with no tweaking required on my part.

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by jwellbelove » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:29 pm

Is the maker of That Other Web Designer considered such a bad word that it has to be redacted? :lol:

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by jwellbelove » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:38 pm

BTW, This is how the page looks when choosing any of the other output formats.

Notice the footer halfway up the web page.
https://www.etlcpp.com/temp/successor.html

Here's how it should look.
https://www.etlcpp.com/temp/successor2.html

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by Pablo » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:02 pm

The software has thousands of options and millions of possible combinations.
It is impossible to see what you have done based on the HTML code.

If you need further assistance, then please share a demo project so I can see what you have done.
Related FAQ:
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forum/ ... 10&t=82134

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by jwellbelove » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:53 pm

If I can get a demo project to fail, then I will, but like I said, it's fairly random.
I'd send the current project, but I've bodged it using global line-spacing. Putting it back would be laborious and possibly not show the weird behaviour again.

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Re: Still can't get consistent paragraphs

Post by lummis » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:07 pm

@jwellbelove

I don't think you are making this easy for yourself. There may well be a simple answer that Pablo can give if you send him your project. What I suggest is that you produce a copy of your existing project by using Save as..... and then delete all the pages with the exception of the faulty page that you have shown above with the footer in the middle together with the associated master page(s). This will give you a sample project as long as you also remove all extensions and custom/third party HTML and scripts. Just follow the instructions for sharing the project and this should give Pablo sufficient information to track down the problem.

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